This post summarizes John Jumper’s talk at Y Combinator (July 2025) on how AI is revolutionizing scientific discovery, with a focus on AlphaFold and the future of AI for science.
John Jumper’s Journey
John Jumper’s path to leading AlphaFold was unconventional:
- Originally trained as a physicist - Thought he would study the laws of the universe
- Dropped out of physics PhD - The work didn’t grab him
- Worked at a computational biology company - Fell in love with using computers to understand biology
- Returned to grad school - Studied biophysics and chemistry, got interested in machine learning (which they called “statistical physics” back then because ML was “disreputable”)
- Joined Google DeepMind - To apply powerful AI technologies to advance science
His guiding principle: Build tools that enable scientists to make discoveries. With about 35,000 citations of AlphaFold, tens of thousands of scientists are using these tools for vaccines, drug development, and understanding how the body works.
The Protein Folding Problem
Why Proteins Matter
- Humans have about 20,000 different types of proteins
- Proteins do practically every function in your cell
- DNA is the instruction manual for building these tiny machines
- Biology has evolved an incredible mechanism to build nano-machines out of atoms
The Folding Process
- DNA gives instructions to build a protein (a sequence of amino acids)
- After assembly, the protein folds spontaneously into a 3D shape
- Like an IKEA bookshelf that builds itself
- This shape determines function
Why Structure Prediction is Hard
- Proteins are incredibly small (a few nanometers - smaller than light wavelength)
- Traditional methods require:
- Convincing proteins to form crystals (can take over a year)
- Using synchrotrons to shine X-rays
- Enormous cleverness and many failed attempts
- About 200,000 protein structures are known (growing at ~12,000/year)
- But billions of protein sequences are being discovered (3,000x faster than structures)
How AlphaFold Works
The goal: Go from a sequence of letters (amino acids) to a 3D structure prediction.
The Three Components of ML Success
- Data: 200,000 protein structures (everyone has the same data)
- Compute: 128 TPU v3 cores for 2 weeks (within academic scope)
- Research: This is where AlphaFold was differentiated
Key insight: We tell too many stories about data and compute, not enough about research.
Research Matters More Than You Think
A careful experiment showed that AlphaFold 2 trained on just 1% of the data was as accurate as AlphaFold 1 (the previous state-of-the-art). This means:
Research was worth a hundredfold of data.
It’s Not About One Big Idea
When people saw AlphaFold, they said “equivariance is the answer!” But ablation studies showed:
- AlphaFold 2 was ~30 GDT better than AlphaFold 1
- Equivariance only explained 2-3 points of improvement
- Many midscale ideas add up to a transformative system
The real breakthrough came from grinding 1% at a time until crossing the accuracy threshold that mattered to experimental biologists.
The Importance of Blind Assessment
Protein structure prediction has had blind assessment since 1994 (CASP competition):
- Every 2 years, researchers predict structures of ~100 proteins whose answers aren’t known
- AlphaFold 2 had about 1/3 the error of any other group
- This is far ahead of LLMs in terms of rigorous evaluation
Why this matters:
- We all overfit to benchmarks
- Real-world problems are almost always harder than training problems
- External benchmarks are critical to figuring out what actually works
Making AlphaFold Available
Two key decisions:
- Open-sourced the code - Specialists could use it immediately
- Released a database - Started with 300,000 predictions, grew to 200 million (essentially every protein from organisms with sequenced genomes)
The Social Proof Effect
After CASP, structure predictors were convinced. But general biologists weren’t sure (“Maybe CASP was easy”).
When the database came out:
- People clicked in and compared to their unpublished structures
- “How did DeepMind get access to my unpublished structure?”
- Word of mouth built trust
- Everyone had a protein they hadn’t solved, or knew someone who did
Users Do the Darndest Things
Unexpected Applications
Two days after code release: A researcher put two proteins together with something in between - essentially “prompt engineering for proteins.” This became the best protein interaction prediction in the world.
The molecular syringe example:
- Scientists at MIT wanted to use a protein for targeted drug delivery
- They ran an AlphaFold prediction (not even a great one)
- Immediately saw: “Those legs at the bottom must be how it recognizes cells”
- Re-engineered it with designed proteins
- Now can target specific cells in a mouse brain for drug delivery
The Real Impact
- Special issue of Science on nuclear pore complex: 3 of 4 papers made extensive use of AlphaFold
- Over 100 mentions of “AlphaFold” - and DeepMind had nothing to do with it
- Scientists discovered new components of fertilization
- The whole field of structural biology is now 5-10% faster
Science is About Hypotheses, Not Just Validation
A common criticism: “Great predictions, but now we need to solve all proteins the classic way to validate.”
They’re right about one thing: Science is about experiments.
They’re wrong about another: Science is about making hypotheses and testing them - not about the structure of a particular protein.
AlphaFold enables scientists to:
- Form hypotheses faster
- Test thousands of interactions computationally
- Focus experimental effort on the most promising directions
The Future of AI for Science
AI as an Amplifier
Structure prediction and AI for science should be thought of as:
- An amplifier for experimentalists
- Starting from scattered observations (natural data - our equivalent of “all the words on the internet”)
- Training general models that understand underlying rules
- Filling in the rest of the picture
The Big Question
The most exciting question in AI for science is: How general will it be?
Will we find:
- A couple of narrow places with transformative impact?
- Or very broad systems?
Jumper expects it will ultimately be the latter as we figure it out. We’ll find more scientific knowledge within general systems (including LLMs) and use them for important purposes.
Key Takeaways
- Research amplifies data and compute - Ideas are a core component, not just scaling
- Many midscale ideas beat one big idea
- Blind assessment is critical for knowing what actually works
- Make tools available - Users will find applications you never imagined
- AI for science is an amplifier - It makes experimentalists faster, not obsolete
- Start where you have data, then find what problems it can be applied to
本文总结了 John Jumper 在 Y Combinator(2025年7月)关于 AI 如何革新科学发现的演讲,重点介绍 AlphaFold 和 AI 科学的未来。
John Jumper 的历程
John Jumper 领导 AlphaFold 的道路并不寻常:
- 最初接受物理学训练 - 以为会研究宇宙定律
- 从物理学博士退学 - 那些工作没有吸引他
- 在计算生物学公司工作 - 爱上了用计算机理解生物学
- 重返研究生院 - 学习生物物理和化学,对机器学习产生兴趣(当时他们称之为”统计物理”,因为机器学习”名声不好”)
- 加入 Google DeepMind - 将强大的 AI 技术应用于推进科学
他的指导原则:构建能让科学家做出发现的工具。AlphaFold 有约 35,000 次引用,数万名科学家正在使用这些工具进行疫苗、药物开发和理解人体运作。
蛋白质折叠问题
为什么蛋白质重要
- 人类有约 20,000 种不同类型的蛋白质
- 蛋白质执行细胞中几乎所有功能
- DNA 是构建这些微型机器的说明书
- 生物学进化出了用原子构建纳米机器的惊人机制
折叠过程
- DNA 给出构建蛋白质的指令(氨基酸序列)
- 组装后,蛋白质自发折叠成 3D 形状
- 就像一个能自己组装的宜家书架
- 这个形状决定了功能
为什么结构预测很难
- 蛋白质非常小(几纳米 - 比光波长还小)
- 传统方法需要:
- 说服蛋白质形成晶体(可能需要一年以上)
- 使用同步加速器照射 X 射线
- 大量的聪明才智和许多失败的尝试
- 已知约 200,000 个蛋白质结构(每年增加约 12,000 个)
- 但正在发现数十亿个蛋白质序列(比结构快 3,000 倍)
AlphaFold 如何工作
目标:从字母序列(氨基酸)到 3D 结构预测。
机器学习成功的三个组成部分
- 数据:200,000 个蛋白质结构(每个人都有相同的数据)
- 算力:128 个 TPU v3 核心运行 2 周(在学术范围内)
- 研究:这是 AlphaFold 的差异化所在
关键洞察:我们讲了太多关于数据和算力的故事,对研究讲得不够。
研究比你想象的更重要
一个仔细的实验表明,仅用 1% 数据训练的 AlphaFold 2 与 AlphaFold 1(之前的最先进系统)一样准确。这意味着:
研究的价值是数据的一百倍。
不是关于一个大想法
当人们看到 AlphaFold 时,他们说”等变性就是答案!“但消融研究表明:
- AlphaFold 2 比 AlphaFold 1 好约 30 GDT
- 等变性只解释了 2-3 分的改进
- 许多中等规模的想法加起来才是变革性的系统
真正的突破来自于每次 1% 的改进,直到跨越对实验生物学家重要的准确度阈值。
盲测的重要性
蛋白质结构预测自 1994 年以来就有盲测(CASP 竞赛):
- 每 2 年,研究人员预测约 100 个答案未知的蛋白质结构
- AlphaFold 2 的误差约为其他任何团队的 1/3
- 在严格评估方面远远领先于 LLM
为什么这很重要:
- 我们都会对基准过拟合
- 现实世界的问题几乎总是比训练问题更难
- 外部基准对于弄清楚什么真正有效至关重要
让 AlphaFold 可用
两个关键决定:
- 开源代码 - 专家可以立即使用
- 发布数据库 - 从 300,000 个预测开始,增长到 2 亿个(基本上是所有基因组已测序生物的每个蛋白质)
社会证明效应
CASP 之后,结构预测者被说服了。但普通生物学家不确定(“也许 CASP 很简单”)。
当数据库发布时:
- 人们点击进去,与他们未发表的结构进行比较
- “DeepMind 怎么获得我未发表的结构的?”
- 口碑建立了信任
- 每个人都有一个他们没有解决的蛋白质,或者认识有这样蛋白质的人
用户会做出最意想不到的事情
意想不到的应用
代码发布两天后:一位研究人员将两个蛋白质放在一起,中间放了一些东西 - 本质上是”蛋白质的提示工程”。这成为了世界上最好的蛋白质相互作用预测。
分子注射器的例子:
- MIT 的科学家想用一种蛋白质进行靶向药物递送
- 他们运行了 AlphaFold 预测(甚至不是很好的预测)
- 立即看到:“底部的那些腿一定是它识别细胞的方式”
- 用设计的蛋白质重新工程化
- 现在可以在小鼠大脑中靶向特定细胞进行药物递送
真正的影响
- Science 关于核孔复合体的特刊:4 篇论文中有 3 篇广泛使用了 AlphaFold
- 超过 100 次提到”AlphaFold” - 而 DeepMind 与此无关
- 科学家发现了受精的新组成部分
- 整个结构生物学领域现在快了 5-10%
科学是关于假设,而不仅仅是验证
一个常见的批评:“很好的预测,但现在我们需要用经典方法解决所有蛋白质来验证。”
他们有一点是对的:科学是关于实验的。
他们有另一点是错的:科学是关于提出假设并测试它们 - 而不是关于特定蛋白质的结构。
AlphaFold 使科学家能够:
- 更快地形成假设
- 在计算上测试数千种相互作用
- 将实验努力集中在最有前途的方向上
AI 科学的未来
AI 作为放大器
结构预测和 AI 科学应该被认为是:
- 实验者的放大器
- 从分散的观察开始(自然数据 - 我们相当于”互联网上所有的文字”)
- 训练理解底层规则的通用模型
- 填补图片的其余部分
大问题
AI 科学中最令人兴奋的问题是:它会有多通用?
我们会发现:
- 几个具有变革性影响的狭窄领域?
- 还是非常广泛的系统?
Jumper 预计最终会是后者。我们将在通用系统(包括 LLM)中发现更多的科学知识,并将它们用于重要目的。
关键要点
- 研究放大数据和算力 - 想法是核心组成部分,不仅仅是规模扩展
- 许多中等规模的想法胜过一个大想法
- 盲测对于知道什么真正有效至关重要
- 让工具可用 - 用户会发现你从未想象过的应用
- AI 科学是一个放大器 - 它让实验者更快,而不是过时
- 从你有数据的地方开始,然后找到它可以应用的问题